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mugen · Feb 12, 2011, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Hi eveyone,

introduction :

- I cant speak english

- I have restard guild war after ~2-3 years not playing.
- I have 2 cd keys & both 4 addons, and know how to play with together... i mean i can do a 1 player (me) + 6 hero team + 1 "follower"
- I ve finished the game and have a nice hero team (3 necro, or 3 ranger/pet mutlishot etc)
- I played pvp (rank 5, almost r6 .. gladiator 3)
- I have a DERVISH / MONK / NECRO all, with all hero all skills (no 'invincible' assa and dont want to make one)

- I SUCK BADLY AT SOLO FARMING My only succefull farm is "Kamadan" with 55 hp monk... kinda slow and boring... less than 10K for on hour...
- dont want to gvg or high pvp anymore (nn teamspeak, guild or so)

my goal:

- I want yet to get 50K gold, the fastest way for me
But what its the best way
(I already sold all my mini pets

)

my options :

gold farming ?
- kamadan farming with 55hp monk

pvp farming ?
- random arena to win balta and selling keys for ~5k gold (i am average-, maybe now low pvp player)

"ectos" farming v1 ?
- underworld with "8 hero team" (2 accounts)
cost 1k ..

"ectos" farming v2 ?
- underworld with immortal monk + 3 heros (cf a farming post I've written)
cost 1k ..sometime still fail ... i am bad..

"ectos" farming v3 ?
- "Underworld 2" - the very old ex- hero asent - with 8 hero teams
(entrance is free)

"rushing a new guy" ?
- "rush" a new charcter to get the 7-8 nightfall "secret chest' (if they still exist) to get 2-3 ruby for exemple

Eye of the north dungeons hard mode farming ?
- with 6 ranger/pet hero team..... I didnt do it to often cant remember if it worth it or not. But i remember it was difficult.

other ideas ? (i am bad at solo farming... i've read many tutorials & youtube tricks, i am still bad)

I have no clue what is the best option... PVP zaishen key farming appear to be the fastest way ..but I dont know.. maybe 8 heros underworld 1 is better..

Thanks

Spiritz · Feb 12, 2011, 12:33 PM // 12:33

Fastest way is feather farming in jaya bluffs nm next to setung harbor in cantha.
There are several posts covering builds and rather than me repeat everything or wait to see what chrs you have ( and make a lenghty thread ) use the search function - its easier and quicker this way - check pvwiki as they have several feather farm builds .
Feathers will easily net you around 10k an hr as they sell for around 10 - 11k a stack and you shud with great ease get over a stack an hr.

All the options you said id forget about , ectos tho high price could take quite a while to get 50k worth ( assuming they around 8k each )as well as heros stealing drops and uw has changed a lot in the last yr.
common run for feathers is between 10 and 15 mins depending on profession - say approx 100 feathers a run ( salv scalps is a must ) and easily 4 runs an hr so thats almost 2 stacks.

Fay Vert · Feb 12, 2011, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Have you collected your free zaishen keys yet? If not talk to High Priest Zhang.

mugen · Feb 12, 2011, 01:33 PM // 13:33

ok i tried zkey farming... not as fast as i remember... even with 10 flawless victory it takes time to get 5k (' yea I have the 2* free zkey someone told me )

pvm may be faster
10k for an hour seems pretty slow a bit boring; is this the normal rythm of any farm ?

So you tell me a random farm IS better that a 6 heroes team ?

let's say ~10k / hour basic farming. vs giglling around in underworld and get 1 or 2 ectos isnt faster (and far less boring? ) ? notice I have 2 *drops, the second player = me

also other idea... about the secret treasure in nightfall... you can open them ~once a month right ? they give less gold, but still gives RUBY and so ? They are at ultra high value, ... ~1H30 to get them.. if you get 2 diamond, 1 salvaged diamond, 2 rubys. for exemple. Repeat with 2-3 char and its faster that anything ?

Thx
(ill look the feather run)

Rafiftw · Feb 12, 2011, 02:23 PM // 14:23

You could get into Speed Clears. Need a sin, proper equipment and luck.

Spiritz · Feb 12, 2011, 02:43 PM // 14:43

ok if i were you check wiki on loot scaling - thats why i said uw with heros means they steal drops same as a normal 8 human party would be.
Uw relies on luck - ask any uw farmer and they will say same - you get runs with no ectos and runs with several ectos but its not constant.
If you have bad luck then you may end up doing several runs with no ectos and thats a waste of time.
Feathers isnt a random run - feather farming could be regarded as one of the most done farms in whole of gw and the reason is - feathers are a vital part of consets hence feathers are high priced at materials npc and sell on market for 10 - 11k.
If i can sell easily 100 consets in toa in an hr for 9k each that would mean i either farm a huge amount of feathers or i buy a huge amount of feathers.
Treasures in nightfall are not that great tbh - ruby/saph and diamonds are a chance drop from the chest , same for salvages and that also reflects in their prices .If they were so easy to get the prices would fall in an instant ( ppl want trade contracts to get rubies ).Treasure chests in nf a just a lil thing anet put in to make us think we get a gd thing for free - nice joke anet.
Being away for 2-3 yrs you have missed a lot of things that have changed within gw - war in kryta , hearts of the north , dhuum and skeletons of dhuum in uw and thats just a few things , the markets totally changed , meta farms have changed as well as meta builds.
As for basic farming - hell its so easy to farm feathers its unreal and you dont really need a special build for it and at the end your not relying ( or praying ) you get any ectos drop.
Solo Farming - 55 monks are limited and im totally surprised that you farmed kamadan which is an outpost - i assume you meant plains of jarin but even the plains is wrong place.55 monks like to deal "holy" dmg , foes in certain places hate holy dmg , fahranur hm is fast as undead take x2 dmg from holy dmg , same as undead in gates of kryta and outside of bergen hotsprings.
Btw soz if this seems a lecture but im trying to stop you thinking single mindly and get you to think more open minded - there is a huge amount of farms out there and many take a lot of time or can be fast but all differ in the amount of cash made.

mugen · Feb 12, 2011, 03:25 PM // 15:25

it's ok, your post is very good

I am not closed mind, I just prefer a hero team fighting that farming
- I am noob at farming, really 55hp 600 hp .. dervish raptro, have no assa..
- Find it very boring
- I have the possibility to play a full hero team, which is far better than any hench, gives elite acces. + yes hero steals drop, but I represent 2/ 8 players. this limit the losts.
I honestly think this way wasnt really explored yet.

ps : I just finished a nf chest run : ~20k reward... it's not that "bad". (lucky ruby)
Up to now its the fastest way to get 100k I knew.. doing this with a few cars.

ps2 : i ll make what you suggested

Spiritz · Feb 12, 2011, 09:16 PM // 21:16

With using 2 accounts you still technically lose out , solo you get all the drops in a zone , each player decreases the drops you get by 12.5% ( 1/8th ) so using 2 accounts you only get 25% of loot compared to 100%.Same goes with gold - they get a share.
600 hp i assume is 600/smite which got nerfed badly last yr when holy wrath was changed from bond to enchant is a lot harder to use now.Loads of us used to enjoy 600/smite farming but without that holywrath dmg you lose a big chunk of dmg which you only miss if you played pre nerf.
One thing i forgot about feather farming in jahai bluffs is very often you get gd runes in each run - usually survivor runes and every several runs ive had shamen runes which were around 1k mark last time i did feathers plus major vigor runes as well - ive not had to buy any for ages .
There isnt really a fast way to make uber cash from farming - if there was it would be known and probably nerfed by anet.The ppl with cash are mainly power traders who can make 100k + xx easily from sellin an buying but to do that you need cash first and to know the market values.

chessyang · Feb 15, 2011, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugen

- I want yet to get 50K gold,

I say feathers or z-keys (and at 5k? i'll buy all your keys at 5k

)

i'm only saying because if you ecots/rubies and stuff your have to spam in town to sell it for a decent price to make a profit. but if you don't care then Ecot/rubies farming is next i say.

stay away from items because in the time it takes to sell it you could be "farming" more money

just my 2 cents